Comments on: Viral 1.4 http://www.thehaikufoundation.org/2009/07/11/viral-1-4/ Mon, 06 Feb 2012 14:47:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Peter Yovu http://www.thehaikufoundation.org/2009/07/11/viral-1-4/comment-page-2/#comment-333 Peter Yovu Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:28:03 +0000 http://thehaikufoundation.org/?p=3520#comment-333 Gabi, thanks for your thoughts about "internal shasei". I hope readers of this blog will contribute to this discussion. I did not read your post until I had written, and posted moments ago, some thoughts about a John Stevenson poem which I believe resonate with some of what you're describing. Would you check that post out and see if you think I am describing something like "internal shasei?" Here it is: http://thehaikufoundation.org/2009/07/13/montage-19/#comment-332 Gabi, thanks for your thoughts about “internal shasei”. I hope readers of this blog will contribute to this discussion.

I did not read your post until I had written, and posted moments ago, some thoughts about a John Stevenson poem which I believe resonate with some of what you’re describing. Would you check that post out and see if you think I am describing something like “internal shasei?” Here it is:

http://thehaikufoundation.org/2009/07/13/montage-19/#comment-332

]]> By: Gabi Greve http://www.thehaikufoundation.org/2009/07/11/viral-1-4/comment-page-2/#comment-330 Gabi Greve Wed, 15 Jul 2009 05:29:23 +0000 http://thehaikufoundation.org/?p=3520#comment-330 “internal shasei” my heart (mind, soul) becomes quiet quote from here http://haikutopics.blogspot.com/2006/07/shasei-sketch-from-nature.html If I write normal poetry and paint a landscape, I am free to transform it as I please, but with my haiku, there is a difference. I hang on to external and internal shasei, sketching from nature and the inspiration of moment. “internal shasei”, writing a phrase that corresponds to your inner feeling of the moment, which is inspried by the scene you see around you (usually expressed in the kigo). This happens often to me when the outside coincides with a strong feeling that I am just having about something and I do not want to suppress, but simply spell it out. This leads us to the concept of expressing your true emotions in haiku: http://wkdhaikutopics.blogspot.com/2007/08/loneliness-sabishisa.html showing me a new dimension - the simple lily Gabi http://happyhaiku.blogspot.com/2005/04/dimensions.html . (sorry if this shows double) “internal shasei”

my heart (mind, soul) becomes quiet

quote from here
http://haikutopics.blogspot.com/2006/07/shasei-sketch-from-nature.html

If I write normal poetry and paint a landscape, I am free to transform it as I please, but with my haiku, there is a difference.
I hang on to external and internal shasei, sketching from nature and the inspiration of moment.

“internal shasei”, writing a phrase that corresponds to your inner feeling of the moment, which is inspried by the scene you see around you (usually expressed in the kigo). This happens often to me when the outside coincides with a strong feeling that I am just having about something and I do not want to suppress, but simply spell it out.

This leads us to the concept of expressing your true emotions in haiku:
http://wkdhaikutopics.blogspot.com/2007/08/loneliness-sabishisa.html

showing me
a new dimension -
the simple lily

Gabi
http://happyhaiku.blogspot.com/2005/04/dimensions.html

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(sorry if this shows double)

]]> By: Merrill Ann Gonzales http://www.thehaikufoundation.org/2009/07/11/viral-1-4/comment-page-1/#comment-327 Merrill Ann Gonzales Wed, 15 Jul 2009 04:42:20 +0000 http://thehaikufoundation.org/?p=3520#comment-327 I am very glad that so many different facts and opinions can be revealed on this site without "academic feuds" but in the spirit of discovery. You are all certainly a wonderful gift to me. In gratitude, Merrill I am very glad that so many different facts and opinions can be revealed on this site without “academic feuds” but in the spirit of discovery. You are all certainly a wonderful gift to me.
In gratitude, Merrill

]]> By: Peter Yovu http://www.thehaikufoundation.org/2009/07/11/viral-1-4/comment-page-1/#comment-319 Peter Yovu Wed, 15 Jul 2009 01:07:42 +0000 http://thehaikufoundation.org/?p=3520#comment-319 Gabi, could you please say more about "internal shasei", not only as it applies to this poem, but in general. Gabi, could you please say more about “internal shasei”, not only as it applies to this poem, but in general.

]]> By: Gabi Greve http://www.thehaikufoundation.org/2009/07/11/viral-1-4/comment-page-1/#comment-318 Gabi Greve Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:46:19 +0000 http://thehaikufoundation.org/?p=3520#comment-318 Thanks for your kind words, Paul ! After quite a stormy night I am ready to interpret this (with a grin o) ) tera no shizukasa e shizuka naru kokoro in the quietude of this mountain temple my heart (mind, soul) becomes quiet The "internal" shasei of his own situation, maybe after a typhoon night, of Santoka now seems obvious to me, considering his wandering, meandering life. Gabi from the "Paradise Hermitage" in Okayama (GokuRakuAn) . Thanks for your kind words, Paul !

After quite a stormy night I am ready to interpret this (with a grin o) )

tera no shizukasa e shizuka naru kokoro

in the quietude of this mountain temple
my heart (mind, soul) becomes quiet

The “internal” shasei of his own situation, maybe after a typhoon night, of Santoka now seems obvious to me, considering his wandering, meandering life.

Gabi from the “Paradise Hermitage” in Okayama (GokuRakuAn)

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